For any new manager who took over Liverpool this season, it was always going to be a long-term project.
Given limited money available and large amounts wasted on the likes of Carroll and Adam, it was always going to have to be a matter of evolution and not revolution.
So, there are different ways the current team can be assessed. One says the problem is inconsistency. The other actually says the opposite.
The 'work in progress' argument is the club is moving in the right direction.
Before West Brom, Liverpool had won 4 and drawn 2 of the last 8 Premiership games. The 4 where points were dropped were away ay United, City and Arsenal and Stoke (always tough). Optimists claim the second half display at United and draws at Arsenal and City as proof that Liverpool can play at the highest level.
So it's a matter of developing consistency. It's a matter of time for the team to gel more regularly, and there's the promising youngsters coming through, such as Sterling and Wisdom.
The other view is that Liverpool are increasingly a mid-table team, with two outstanding players. Like any mid-table team, on their day, they can match anyone; but this needs the few top players to be playing well and the rest to be completely on top of their game.
Southampton beat City the other night and Ferguson described them as the best team to visit Old Trafford this season. Villa got wins at Liverpool and Everton. But nobody would suggest that either Southampton or Villa are knocking on the door, because, mid-table teams can't perform to this level week to week.
Pessimists would argue that this is Liverpool. The fact that they've not yet beaten a top-half team actually shows consistency. The displays against City and Arsenal were the exception.
And promising youngsters? Borini was signed for a reported £10.5m but hasn't shown signs of being the "exciting" player Rogers enthused about. He didn't start when Sturridge was not fit for West Brom.
Joe Allen, at £15m is not currently a first-choice starter and looks a long way from being another Xavi. Sahin was brought in on a reported loan fee of £2m and has gone. Assaidi seems to have disappeared.
It would be interesting to see what the Liverpool fans who visit this site think?
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